Уикипедия:Форум

Уикипедия — ашық энциклопедиясынан алынған мәлімет
Мұнда ауысу: шарлау, іздеу
Форум Сілтеме: УП:Ф


Қазақша Уикипедия форумына қош келдіңіз!

Форум сегіз бөлімнен тұрады — техникалық қателерін, саясаттары мен ережелерін және Уикипедияның іс-әрекеттерін талқылау үшін пайдаланылады. Төменгі кестеден ең тиісті бөлімін тауып, немесе былайғылар деген бөлімінде хабарлама қосыңыз. Хабарламаңыздың соңына (~~~~ дегенді теріп, немесе аспаптар жақтауындағы қолтаңба белгішесін Insert-signature.png басып) қолтаңбаңызды қойыңыз.



Егер сіз өзіңіздің мәселеңізді форумның қай бөліміне жазу керектігін білмесеңіз, «Ұсыныстар» бөліміне жазуыңызға болады — сол жерде сізге қатысушылар қатары бағыт көрсетеді немесе сіздің сұрағыңызды, ескертпеңізді, арызыңызды немесе ұсынысыңызды керек бөлімге көшіреді.

Форумның қайсысы болсын беттерінде маған жауап жазу үшін қатынас мақсатында деп өзіңіздің e-mail, ICQ және басқа контактілеріңізді жарияламаңыз. Сіздің сұрағыңыз жауапсыз қалмайды, ал сіздің көрсеткен ақпараттарыңыз спамерлер үшін нысана болуы мүмкін.

Форумның бөлімдері Талқылайтын тақырыптары Әрекет
Сұрақтар Уикипедияға мақала жазу, өңдеу және тағы басқа сұрақтарыңызды қоя аласыз. Бақылау Мұрағат
Жаңалықтар Уикипедияға қатысты жаңалықтарды талқылау. Бақылау Мұрағат
Ережелер Бар және ұсынылған ережелер үшін. Бақылау Мұрағат
Техникалық Техникалық қателіктерді талқылау үшін. MediaWiki бағдарламасының қателіктері үшін MediaZilla торабын қолданыңыз. Бақылау Мұрағат
Ұсыныстар Ережелерге қатысы жоқ жаңа ұсыныстарды талқылау үшін. Бақылау Мұрағат
Басқалар Қайсыбір басқа санаттарға жатпайтын мәліметтерді талқылау үшін. Бақылау Мұрағат
Қателер туралы хабарлау Уикипедияда кездесетін әртүрлі қателерді хабарлау үшін. Бақылау Мұрағат
Әкімшілер форумы Уикипедияда әкімшілерінің форумы Бақылау Мұрағат


Kazakh is missing

Kazakh is missing from this page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/There_is_also_a_Wikipedia_in_your_language
Thank you, Varlaam (талқылауы) 22:50, 2016 ж. қаңтардың 21 (ALMT)

Ready! --Batyrbek (талқылауы) 23:02, 2016 ж. қаңтардың 21 (ALMT)
Thanks very much. That was super fast work! Varlaam (талқылауы) 23:04, 2016 ж. қаңтардың 21 (ALMT)

wmru:Викимедиа:Многоязычность

Создал wmru:Шаблон:Проекты Викимедиа на языках России/kk, буду признателен, если поможете исправить ошибки. Спасибо.--Frhdkazan (талқылауы) 20:11, 2016 ж. қаңтардың 29 (ALMT)

Where should the visual editor newsletter be delivered?

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Hi all. Some of you may recall that visual editor feedback centralization was implemented recently. As a result of that, I don't know where to deliver the upcoming issues of the newsletter. Would you please choose a page and add it to this list (or tell me what the new target should be)? Otherwise, I'll temporarily send the bulletin to this page. Thanks for your attention. Best, --Elitre (WMF) (талқылауы) 21:09, 2016 ж. ақпанның 16 (ALMT)

VisualEditor News #1—2016

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The visual editor

Did you know?

Among experienced editors, the visual editor's table editing is one of the most popular features.

Screenshot showing a pop-up menu for column operations in a table

If you select the top of a column or the end of a row, you can quickly insert and remove columns and rows.

Now, you can also rearrange columns and rows. Click "Move before" or "Move after" to swap the column or row with its neighbor.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

Recent changes

You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.

The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes

The single edit tab project will combine the "Өңдеу" and "Қайнарын өңдеу" tabs into a single "Өңдеу" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Өңдеу" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Өңдеу tab of Special:Preferences:

  • Соңғы өңдегішті есте сақта!,
  • Егер мүмкін болса, әрқашан көріп өңдегішін қолдану,
  • Әрқашан уикимәтін өңдегішін қолдану, and
  • Маған екі өңдеу қойындысын көрсет. (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)

The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. This will affect the following languages, amongst others: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic.

Let's work together

If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Рақмет!

Elitre (WMF), 01:21, 2016 ж. ақпанның 27 (ALMT)

Wikimedia CEE Spring 2016

Hi! Is Kazakh Wikipedia taking part in this year edition on Wikimedia Central and Europe Spring? To 15 March Wikipedias may show interest, report to action and create a list of at least 100 proposed articles to write on other Wikis. I can write some article about Kazakhstan under WCEE Spring if Kazakh Wiki will take part in action. Good luck and greetings from Poland :) Orbwiki107 (талқылауы) 21:30, 2016 ж. наурыздың 9 (ALMT)

The most of users and admins are inactive. I don't know how to do. --Аrysтanbek (талқылауы) 23:55, 2016 ж. наурыздың 9 (ALMT)
Enough just a few active people to engage in action. There are some time to report and make a list of proposed articles. Russian and Bashkir Wikipedias created their lists on 7th March. You can use this table to create Kazakh propositions. I encourage you to take part in this great action :) Orbwiki107 (талқылауы) 02:28, 2016 ж. наурыздың 10 (ALMT)

Атлас википедистов

Приветствую коллег из братской казахской Википедии. Кто нибудь из Вас может создать такой атлас на Вашем разделе? Это очень интересный атлас для участников сообщества. У многих разделов есть такой атлас, а в казахской нет. --Farsizabon (талқылауы) 17:41, 2016 ж. мамырдың 13 (+06)

JavaScript

Hi. I can see that this project has old JavaScript that needs to be updated. I would happily make the required updates myself, but I would have to – at least temporarily – become an admin here to do that (because the relevant pages are in the MediaWiki namespace). I have already made these updates on a number of other projects, so it would be very easy for me to do this. If no one does anything, some JavaScript-related tools will break later this year. If you want me to make these updates, you can grant me admin rights and I will make the updates as soon as I can. Nirmos (талқылауы) 12:11, 2016 ж. маусымның 3 (+06)
@Нұрлан Рахымжанов: бұл кісі бұл жобада ескі JavaScript кодтарын жаңартуды қажет етеді дейді. Оларды мен өзім жарңартушы едім, бірақ бұны жасау үшін мұнда уақытша админ болуым керек (себебі ол беттер МедиаУики есім кеңістігінде орналасқан) дейді. Мен бірнеше басқа жобаларда бұл жаңартударды жасадым, сондықтан бұны жасау мен үшін өте оңай дейді. Егер ештеңе жасамаса кейбір JavaScript қатысты құралдар бұл жылдан кейін бұзылады дейді. Егер бұл жаңартуларды жасағыларыңыз келсе, маған админ құқығын беріңіздер мен жаңартударды жасаймын дейді. Админ құқығын беріп жібересіз бе? --Аrysтanbek (талқылауы) 09:05, 2016 ж. маусымның 4 (+06)
@Nirmos: done! --Аrysтanbek (талқылауы) 13:26, 2016 ж. маусымның 4 (+06)

Editing News #2—2016

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VisualEditor
Did you know?

It's quick and easy to insert a references list.

Screenshot showing a dropdown menu with many items

Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "Кірістіру" menu and click the "Дереккөздер тізімі" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references. Finally, click "Кірістіру" in the dialog to insert the Дереккөздер тізімі. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.

Recent changes

The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.

The single edit tab feature combines the "Өңдеу" and "Қайнарын өңдеу" tabs into a single "Өңдеу" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Өңдеу" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.

Future changes

The "Бетті сақтау" button will say "Бетті жариялау". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Рақмет!

m:User:Elitre (WMF), 23:20, 2016 ж. шілденің 3 (+06)

WikiTurkic

Приглашаю на обсуждение m:User talk:Рөстәм Нурыев/WikiTurkic --Рөстәм Нурыев (талқылауы) 20:27, 2016 ж. тамыздың 9 (+06)

Editing News #3—2016

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VisualEditor
Did you know?
Did you know that you can easily re-arrange columns and rows in the visual editor?
Screenshot showing a dropdown menu with options for editing the table structure


Select a cell in the column or row that you want to move. Click the arrow at the start of that row or column to open the dropdown menu (shown). Choose either "Move before" or "Move after" to move the column, or "Move above" or "Move below" to move the row.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has mainly worked on a new wikitext editor. They have also released some small features and the new map editing tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the list of work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, releasing the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving language support.

Recent changes

  • You can now set text as small or big.[1]
  • Invisible templates have been shown as a puzzle icon. Now, the name of the invisible template is displayed next to the puzzle icon.[2] A similar feature will display the first part of hidden HTML comments.[3]
  • Categories are displayed at the bottom of each page. If you click on the categories, the dialog for editing categories will open.[4]
  • At many wikis, you can now add maps to pages. Go to the Insert menu and choose the "Maps" item. The Discovery department is adding more features to this area, like geoshapes. You can read more at mediawiki.org.[5]
  • The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page.[6] In the future, the "Бетті сақтау" button will say "Бетті жариялау". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
  • Image galleries now use a visual mode for editing. You can see thumbnails of the images, add new files, remove unwanted images, rearrange the images by dragging and dropping, and add captions for each image. Use the "Options" tab to set the gallery's display mode, image sizes, and add a title for the gallery.[7]

Future changes

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

  • If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Рақмет!

—Elitre (WMF)

23:49, 2016 ж. қазанның 15 (+06)

Wikiexperiments challenge

Dear CEE friends. Sorry for writing you in English only. I would like to inform you that there is an ongoing challenge on increasing the use of 45 scientific experiments (25 in physics and 20 in chemistry) on Wikipedia in the languages spoken within the CEE region. The main goal of the challenge is to provide better illustrations of physical laws and chemical reactions in a unique way with high educational value.

All videos have appropriate descriptions in their specific pages on Wikimedia Commons and are ready to be translated, while there are lists of articles on the project page on Meta where the videos can be used. I can help you with adding the videos to the appropriate articles without descriptions and will be grateful if you help in translating the descriptions (videos about physics experiments have been already added). Please do not hesitate to contact me if any additional explanation is needed. Thanks in advance.--Kiril Simeonovski (талқылауы) 20:08, 2016 ж. қарашаның 21 (+06)

Invitation to Wikimedia CEE Spring 2017

Sorry for writing in English.

Dear Kazakh community,

Last year your community participated at CEE Spring in Kazakhstan and we invite you to participate in this year's contest! Local organisers, please subscribe to the mailing list at https://lists.wikimedia.bg/mailman/listinfo/ceespring-localorganisers, add your community at the Meta page with the participants and discuss this year's edition of the contest on its talk page (Talk:Wikimedia CEE Spring 2017/Participants). There you will also find information on some of the things expected from the local organisers. We are looking forward to reading from you soon!

On behalf of the international organisers, -- Ата (талқылауы) 03:59, 2017 ж. қаңтардың 17 (+06)

Editing News #1—2017

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VisualEditor
Did you know?

Did you know that you can review your changes visually?

Screenshot showing some changes to an article. Most changes are highlighted with text formatting.
When you are finished editing the page, type your edit summary and then choose "Өзгертулеріңізді қарап шығыңыз".

In visual mode, you will see additions, removals, new links, and formatting highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.


Toggle button showing visual and wikitext options; visual option is selected.


Click the toggle button to switch between visual and wikitext diffs.


Screenshot showing the same changes, in the two-column wikitext diff display.


The wikitext diff is the same diff tool that is used in the wikitext editors and in the page history. You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.


Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes

  • A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the New wikitext mode.
  • A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [8]
  • The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The <references /> block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [9]
  • You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [10]
  • The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [11]
  • The Санаттар item has been moved to the top of the Бет параметрлері menu (from clicking on the "hamburger" icon) for quicker access. [12] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [13]
  • You can now create <chem> tags (sometimes used as <ce>) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [14]
  • Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [15]
  • The Арнайы таңбалар menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [16]
  • A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [17]
  • There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations: Control+Shift+K on a PC, or Command+Shift+K on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is Control+K or Command+K respectively. [18]

Future changes

  • The team is working on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of <ref> tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [19]
  • The kind of button used to Алдын-ала қарау, Өзгерістерді көрсет, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding &ooui=1 to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [20]
  • The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [21]
  • If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Рақмет!

—Elitre (WMF)

00:05, 2017 ж. мамырдың 13 (+06)

Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017: call for delegates and speakers

Hello! On behalf of Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017 Team I would like to inform you that we have already opened our call for participants! CEE Meeting 2017 will be held in Warsaw, Poland from 22 September to 25 September. It will be the largest gathering of Wikimedians from Central and Eastern Europe (CEE region) this year. Delegates from your community are also invited to take part! You can find all the details on how to register here. We have also opened the call for programme applications - why don't you become a speaker at CEE Meeting? If you have any questions, please contact us at ceemeeting@wikimedia.pl. Best regards from Wikimedia Polska! Powerek38 (талқылауы) 02:38, 2017 ж. мамырдың 20 (+06)

m:Requests for comment/Global centralnotice for the blockade of the Turkish government

Hi, you are invited to participate in the discussion on the proposal to make a banner through m: centralnotice to inform more people around the world about what the Turkish government has done about Wikipedia, ie all the language versions of Wikipedia are You are obscured, so in Turkey it is impossible to view the * .wikipedia.org site. To hope that the Turkish government will remove the block, it is necessary to raise awareness of this fact around the world because it is important to succeed in this mission because Wikipedia can not be seen in Turkey. With this message also for those interested, I invite him to sign the Wikimedian appeal.

If you have any questions or questions do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks best regards. --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 17:51, 2017 ж. мамырдың 31 (+06)

Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017

Һаумыһығыҙ, ҡаҙаҡ туғандар! Кто от вас поедет на Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017? Хотелось бы встретиться в Варшаве. Вы можете направить 2 делегатов. Подробности читайте тут. Регистрация делегатов до 15 июня включительно. С уважением, координатор Wikimedians of Bashkortostan User Group -Рөстәм Нурыев (талқылауы) 10:14, 2017 ж. маусымның 8 (+06)

  • Өзімді делегаттыққа кандидат ретінде ұсынамын.--Kaiyr (талқылауы) 14:03, 2017 ж. маусымның 8 (+06)
  • Варшавада кездесу - бұл өте тамаша ұсыныс . Делегат ретінде Kaiyr-ды қолдаймын--Astana (талқылауы) 03:27, 2017 ж. маусымның 10 (+06)
  • Делегат ретінде Kaiyr мырзаны (+) Қолдаймын--Мұхамеджан А.А. (талқылау) 01:57, 2017 ж. маусымның 13 (+06)
  • Kaiyrдың кандидаттығын қолдаймын. Қатысушы:Салиха--Салиха 12:39, 2017 ж. маусымның 14 (+06)
  • Рахмет. Тағы бір ағылшын тілін білетін қатысушы болса жақсы болар еді.--Kaiyr (талқылауы) 02:05, 2017 ж. маусымның 15 (+06)
  • Мен де өзімді делагаттыққа кандидат ретінде ұсынамын. Қатысушы:Салиха--Салиха 16:49, 2017 ж. маусымның 15 (+06)
Салиха ханымды қолдаймын. -Нұрлан Рахымжанов 00:47, 2017 ж. маусымның 16 (+06)
  • Мен де өз кандидаттығымды ұсынғым келген. Бірақ, сәл кеш қалып қойған сияқтымын. :( --Batyrbek (талқылауы) 11:09, 2017 ж. маусымның 16 (+06)
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