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Қазақша Уикипедия форумына қош келдіңіз!

Форум сегіз бөлімнен тұрады — техникалық қателерін, саясаттары мен ережелерін және Уикипедияның іс-әрекеттерін талқылау үшін пайдаланылады. Төменгі кестеден ең тиісті бөлімін тауып, немесе былайғылар деген бөлімінде хабарлама қосыңыз. Хабарламаңыздың соңына (~~~~ дегенді теріп, немесе аспаптар жақтауындағы қолтаңба белгішесін басып) қолтаңбаңызды қойыңыз.

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Егер сіз өзіңіздің мәселеңізді форумның қай бөліміне жазу керектігін білмесеңіз, «Ұсыныстар» бөліміне жазуыңызға болады — сол жерде сізге қатысушылар қатары бағыт көрсетеді немесе сіздің сұрағыңызды, ескертпеңізді, арызыңызды немесе ұсынысыңызды керек бөлімге көшіреді.

Форумның қайсысы болсын беттерінде маған жауап жазу үшін қатынас мақсатында деп өзіңіздің e-mail, ICQ және басқа контактілеріңізді жарияламаңыз. Сіздің сұрағыңыз жауапсыз қалмайды, ал сіздің көрсеткен ақпараттарыңыз спамерлер үшін нысана болуы мүмкін.

Форумның бөлімдері	Талқылайтын тақырыптары	Әрекет
Сұрақтар	Уикипедияға мақала жазу, өңдеу және тағы басқа сұрақтарыңызды қоя аласыз.
Жаңалықтар	Уикипедияға қатысты жаңалықтарды талқылау.
Ережелер	Бар және ұсынылған ережелер үшін.
Техникалық	Техникалық қателіктерді талқылау үшін. MediaWiki бағдарламасының қателіктері үшін MediaZilla торабын қолданыңыз.
Ұсыныстар	Ережелерге қатысы жоқ жаңа ұсыныстарды талқылау үшін.
Басқалар	Қайсыбір басқа санаттарға жатпайтын мәліметтерді талқылау үшін.
Қателер туралы хабарлау	Уикипедияда кездесетін әртүрлі қателерді хабарлау үшін.
Администраторлар форумы	Уикипедияда администраторларының форумы

Question

Напишу здесь на русском языке, поскольку вижу в Казахстане лучше его понимают, чем английский. У меня возник вопрос: почему аглоязычний текст пишеться не как в оригинале, а своеобразным казахицированым способом.--KHMELNYTSKYIA (талқылауы) 19:13, 2018 ж. шілденің 10 (+06)

Hello! Could you please clarify which article are you talking about?--Batyrbek (талқылауы) 11:11, 2018 ж. шілденің 11 (+06)

Hi! So, thank you for the quick response. For example, even your text is written so: "Һелло! Цоұлд ёұ плеасе цларіфy уһіцһ артіцле аре ёұ талкінг абоұт". I think it is a bit strange. There may be a problem with my language settings.--KHMELNYTSKYIA (талқылауы) 23:27, 2018 ж. шілденің 11 (+06)

Yes, you're right! You can check in your phone's settings. I am not sure what exactly, but I'm guessing it's something called 'Locale' or whatever. If you use English as a main language in your phone, then there won't be these kind of glitches. --Batyrbek (талқылауы) 11:31, 2018 ж. шілденің 12 (+06)

Editing News #2—2018

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Tap on the pencil icon to start editing. The page will probably open in the wikitext editor.

You will see another pencil icon in the toolbar. Tap on that pencil icon to the switch between visual editing and wikitext editing.

Remember to publish your changes when you're done.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

Recent changes

• The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
• The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
• The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
• The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
• The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
• The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [1]

Let's work together

• The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
• The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
• If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Рақмет!

—Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

20:17, 2018 ж. қарашаның 2 (+06)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

1. Section editing
   • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
   • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
2. Loading overlay
   • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

• Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
• Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
• Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
• Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

• Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
• Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

00:32, 2019 ж. шілденің 24 (+06)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team wants your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk pages project

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.

• On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
• There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
• Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.

• In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
  • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
  • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
  • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
• Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

• Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
• Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
• Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The Editing team hopes to share results in November. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

17:12, 2019 ж. қазанның 29 (+06)

WikiGap 2020 Russia

Уважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском викимарафоне WikiGap 2020 (8 марта - 8 мая, все IP из России, только Википедии, 1 показ в неделю). Спасибо. JukoFF (талқылауы) 15:02, 2020 ж. ақпанның 27 (+06)

1 сәуірге орай Басты бетті өзгерту

Қайырлы күн, құрметті Уикипедия қатысушылары. 1 сәуір күні Алдар көсенің туған күні, яғни күлкі күні, осыған орай Басты бетті күлкілі етіп өзгертсек. Орыс Уикипедиясы жыл сайын өзгертіп отырады-мыс. Ұсыныс мынадай. Ортаға салып талқылайық, қосарыңыз болса, қарсылық не қолдау болса, жазып отырыңыз.--Мұхамеджан А.А. (талқылау) 16:45, 2020 ж. наурыздың 26 (+06)

Жақсы идея бірақ қазіргі пандемияға байланысты орынсыз деп ойлаймын және де онсызда қазуикидің сапасы сын көтермейтін жағдайда одан әрі беделі түсіп кететін сияқты. Сондықтан мен қарсымын --Kasymov ^Т 16:58, 2020 ж. наурыздың 28 (+06)

Аса кісі қызығатын дүние емес екен. Өз тілімізді қорлаудан басқа ештеңе де емес. Қарсымын. -Нұрлан Рахымжанов 14:13, 2020 ж. наурыздың 29 (+06)

 Қолдаймын--Kaiyr (талқылауы) 17:10, 2020 ж. наурыздың 29 (+06)